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Author Topic:   Rei, Why does worship concern you?
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Message 1 of 64 (71551)
12-08-2003 9:55 AM


'Those who worship God must worship him in spirit and in truth.'If you do this then you have worshipped God.
So, Rei how would you worship God ?
'I am in the Father and the Father is in me' - Jesus Christ, this is for 'believer in Christ' - what matters is that we know Jesus is the son of God!
(all that I quote is from memory, so forgive me if I err slightly)

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Message 4 of 64 (71630)
12-08-2003 5:03 PM
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12-08-2003 4:21 PM


Wow I didn't think her highness would credit me with a response.
Ofcourse my point is that as long as you worship God in spirit and in truth worship can be a choice of things, one person could worship very differently from another. I can see you do not seek a proper discussion about this so I guess this is my last post.
Pray tell, friend, how do you "know Jesus is the son of God"?
Ofcourse individually I know he is, I was not claiming everyone knows this truth. So I'm going to guess you don't seriously want an answer.

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Message 8 of 64 (71668)
12-08-2003 6:38 PM
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12-08-2003 6:07 PM


Actually, I do. How do you "know Jesus is the son of God"? For example, a billion of Earth's people "know" that Vishnu is up there preserving the earth
If I am guilty of this then yes it's the same difference but there are many reasons for my conclusions, including faith and belief and heres the tip of the iceburg on 'my thinking' ;Because, any reasonable person if they look from an outside view can see which is the real God. I mean vishnu worshippers I have never came across on theses sites, so I'm sceptical about your figures. The 'bible forum' existing on this site speaks volumes, it's obvious that even the athiests know if there is 'God' the most likely one that could be him is the biblical one. That's if humans happen to know about him ofcourse, you could say he is an unknown God or 'Einstein's' version, but I think ANYONE can see the best candidate from the 'humans' literary efforts and the most complete and likely to be God, God - can only be the biblical one. I mean if there is no evidence of Jesus (to you) then there must be 'minus no evidence' of this vishnu bloke. For example the historical Jesus is complimenting the 'faith Jesus' - any logical thinker can obviously see that they are the same person at this time, certainly the historians have shown this.

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Message 10 of 64 (71673)
12-08-2003 6:47 PM
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12-08-2003 6:40 PM


Ofcourse this is all because I said 'we know Jesus is the son of God'. I meant Christians, I did not say I could prove scientifically that he is the Son. The papyrus evidence of recently- certainly confirms the New Testament Jesus so far, okay it doesn't prove him but I'd like to see vishnu's evidence. I'm not decrediting the vishnu worshippers but she is the one turning this into a 'Is Jesus real' topic, not me, as message 1 was to 'believer in Christ' - a personal message it was not a declaration to the forum members.

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Message 13 of 64 (71679)
12-08-2003 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by crashfrog
12-08-2003 6:49 PM


Ofcourse am I right in thinking this 'hindu' says if you are poor you deserve it - shit happens, and to the rich 'if they are poor they deserve it, shit happens leave them to it.' I hope that's the right religion when I say that, but please ...... you think that is the real 'religion' hmmmmmm.
let'a be honest Frog, the biblical God covers two types of believers, the Jewish and the christian, he is a complete God who answers every 'why' question- can other religions do the same? or do you suggest I worship rats and shit?

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Message 14 of 64 (71686)
12-08-2003 7:02 PM


This is all rubbish anyway, I'm not even arguing this point, it was a personal message - it's you people who want to argue it if your honest. Message 1 proves this. (and I can't edit)

  
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Message 15 of 64 (71688)
12-08-2003 7:06 PM
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12-08-2003 6:49 PM


We all speak English. In the English-speaking world, Christianity is the dominant influential religion.
Next you'll be telling me Jesus was an english man, ofcourse he was a Jew!!!! So your thinking is bizarre. There is no rule saying ' and this testament is for the english speaking'- duh

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Message 18 of 64 (71704)
12-08-2003 7:36 PM
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12-08-2003 7:16 PM


I've said twice your off topic. If you want to argue over which religion is true start your own topic and don't ruin mine. Message1 - maybe you didn't read it properly it was not a claim or theory, it was a personal message to 'believer in Christ' what do I need to do -publish a book to convince you? - man alive.
All your statistics were unnecessary, your issues are quite clearly with Jesus, not me.

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Message 19 of 64 (71706)
12-08-2003 7:38 PM
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Message 21 of 64 (71710)
12-08-2003 7:42 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by NosyNed
12-08-2003 7:38 PM


Your right good man, I guess I'm finished. It's a pointless argument the one she persists with, if I wanted to argue the existance of Jesus I would have said. I guess she just took it and ran, I mean she seems to want to 'argue' rather than discuss how people worship. Oh well - I guess there is no worshippers around here.

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Message 24 of 64 (71717)
12-08-2003 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Rei
12-08-2003 7:52 PM


So, Rei how would you worship God ?
Karen, this is my quote. How WOULD you worship, your answer was silly, I said it was and so you persisted with the 'prove this' strategy.
I guess you can't think of a way in which you would realistically worship God.

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Message 26 of 64 (71720)
12-08-2003 8:11 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by NosyNed
12-08-2003 8:03 PM


However, as Rei pointed out it is kind of silly to discuss worshipping with someone who isn't interested in worshipping.
But even sillier to make silly suggestions about worship whan you do not understand it!

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Message 27 of 64 (71722)
12-08-2003 8:15 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Rei
12-08-2003 8:10 PM


How would you worship the invisible pink unicorn that is currently running around in your hair?
Ofcourse, people do actually worship God, is it so silly to ask you to imagine how you could worship him? I mean people have worshipped him as Ned suggested, this leads me to think you have never actually worshipped ever in your life and so probably do not know what you are talking about when opening topics to do with worship, but please prove me wrong by all means.

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Message 30 of 64 (71731)
12-08-2003 8:24 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Rei
12-08-2003 8:19 PM


Which thread are you referring to?
Serving God. Maybe there is a difference, but it struck me as an odd thread. - I thought you might know something of worship, and so I asked.
I don't know... praying? I haven't been a Christian since high school.
Well, yes that's a form of worship. I usually pray to thank God though. I worship him, and have worshipped him in other ways. Sometimes with big efforts - like I said if you worship in truth and in spirit you can't go wrong. That means you can choose to serve him in many ways I guess.
p.s Is Karen your name, or was I wrong?

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Message 31 of 64 (71732)
12-08-2003 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by NosyNed
12-08-2003 8:18 PM


Re: Me worship
I am sure you can think of some way in which you could worship God Ned, skiing or mountain walking maybe You are also welcome to worship remember.

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